Now that I think about it, reporting all these videos and fake accounts is a complete waste of time. Even if we succeeded in removing all of them, they could easily just set up new accounts to take their place. Our efforts would just be useless in the end. Antonio and Arsen may not have posted those Vimeo videos of Annett, but this is probably even more troubling since now other people are posting her erotic material all over the internet and there's very little we can do about it!
And regarding Annett's reputation being ruined because of her Erotic modelling: Well, let's look at the bright side. At least, she was smart enough not to do any hardcore porn. A lot of the other models that worked for Antonio have done a lot of hardcore, explicit sex scenes, but not Annett herself. If she had ever done any sex scenes and got caught, her career and reputation would definitely have been severely damaged with no possibility of ever repairing it. Her doing a bunch of nude shoots
is a lot less damaging compared to a lot of the extreme degrading stuff we find in porn these days. Annett's nude shoots may have been explicit to some degree, but at least they were tastefully done for the most part. I don't think this will damage her reputation and career in the long run. Even if it does end up destroying her Ballet career, she could still use her talents to move on to bigger and better things.
And I'm sure a lot of Annett's friends, family, and co-workers would probably understand her situation like we do. Assuming they already know about her nude modelling, they would show some compassion and understand her reasons for going into nude Erotic modelling in the first place. Annett was most likely in a very tough period in her life when she decided to go into erotic modelling. Imagine living in a part of the world where the economy sucks and there's barely any job opportunities. A struggling young Ballet dancer like Annett who had a lot of personal problems to deal with and was desperate for some money probably had no other choice but to go into nude Erotic modelling. It was either that or prostitution.
No sane, rational person would ever blame her for doing what she did. If people were to be in Annett's (ballet) shoes, I would bet almost all of them would have made a similar decision with their lives.
It certainly is impossible to get everything, and to do it for all time. But I do think that it is a worthwhile effort in the short run, until this storm passes. Attitudes are very conservative in Russia and Ukraine. A nude model is often considered to be a prostitute, or as Genevieve Gandi mentions in her blog, a "bitch". There are people who spend all their time scouring VK and Facebook so that they can expose models' real names, city of residence, employer, etc. Then the harassment starts. It can turn a model's life upside down. Rylsky will tell you that he has lost countless models because of this harassment. I would hate for Annett to have to go through the same.
Well, I already did my part in reporting the videos and fake accounts. I don't expect all of them to be taken down. Unfortunately, there's always going to be people posting her and other model's nude content for as long as the internet exists. I just hope that our efforts in taking them down sends some kind of message to future posters out there who do these kind of things for their own selfish, immoral reasons.
I also have another thing to confess. As you remember from one my previous posts: the extremely long one where I confess to discovering Annett's private accounts and where I expose Antonio and Arsen's dirty schemes. Well, I withheld some other information when I was writing that post. This was mainly because, as you can probably guess, to protect Annett's privacy as much as possible. But since we're already discussing the topic of "model's reputations being ruined for posing nude", I think it would be the right time to divulge this bit of information. Don't worry, I won't reveal too much of what I found. I don't want to attract any more unwanted attention over her private life, but this is happy news and it will ease some of the worries and concerns that many of the posters have over Annett's current situation. Here it goes:
When I discovered Annett's private accounts many months ago, I also stumbled upon some photos of her that were taken AFTER the Antonio/Arsen incident in which she was forced to delete her private photos and make her personal accounts private!
That's right! These photos are very recent with some of them taking place only a few weeks after that traumatic incident. Now I'm not going to claim that I know the exact details of her personal life, but let's just say from the impressions that I got from the photos, she looks quite happy, despite what she just went through. She's hanging out with co-workers and friends, smiling and having a good time. I'm not sure about the status of her Ballet career, however. The photos that I saw took place outside the Ballet world in a more relaxed, casual, and friendly setting (let's just say). It's hard to say whether she got fired from her Ballet job or if she's just taking a break after the incident. Only time will tell. Her overall reputation also didn't seem to be tarnished to any great extent. She's still surrounded by friends, family, acquaintances etc. as evident by the photos and other things. I'm not sure if her friends and family members ever discovered that she did nude modeling, but as I mentioned in my previous post, I'm sure that many of them would understand her reasons, despite what you said about Russia and Ukraine having conservative attitudes over such things.
So there you have it. Annett is doing just fine and there's really nothing to worry about. I'm sure she's still hurt and traumatized by this incident (who wouldn't be), but she's taking things in stride and moving on with her life the best way she can.
I would be delighted to have a happy ending to this! Time will tell.
By the way, did you ever receive a reply from Facebook in your Support inbox after you reported the accounts? Or did they just leave you hanging?
It's annoying that the forms Facebook and Twitter provide to report an account give you no chance to explain the problem. Just check two or three boxes and you're done, but you really haven't conveyed the nature of the problem to them, or given them anything solid to investigate.
Don't worry about her ballet career, she wasn't fired. And thank you for reporting those accounts on Facebook and VK, I did the same and I hope this time it works.
Norfolk,
That's even more great news! Looks like she's still going to continue what she loves doing. That's a relief to hear.
Cygnus,
I'm no Nostradamus, but I can definitely see a bright future for her. She has that rare combination of beauty and brains that you almost never see in your average girl. Even if she were to leave the Ballet world behind, she could still find a successful and productive career elsewhere. This whole terrible mess with Antonio and Arsen taking advantage of her and almost ruining her reputation and career will just be an insignificant speck of her long, promising life.
And no I still haven't received a response from Facebook and Twitter. I doubt they ever will. They literally have the worst customer service ever! I swear they run those social media sites like a bunch of dictators. They never listen to the people and they always jam these stupid useless updates that add nothing to the quality of the site.
Oh well. At least, we now know Annett is doing alright. That's the only thing that matters at the end of all this.
Tip: Facebook gives you the chance to comment on your experience in removing Annett's primary account. Be sure to ask Facebook to remove the remaining three pages in your comments, in addition to reporting them.
It's so nice to read all of this wonderful news about her! I was so worried about her that I was almost losing sleep over it. Can you believe it? Now we can finally breathe a sign of relief knowing that she's going to be in a much better state than what we previously thought. I actually don't even care if she goes back to modelling anymore to tell you the truth. After what Antonio did to her, I could care less about any upcoming videos or photos! As long as she's safe and happy. That's all that matters to me at this point.
I'm glad you 2 have such amazing inside information. Annett isn't going to be returning to modelling anymore so most of her fans aren't going to know what happened to her after that ordeal with Antonio. It's a good thing you 2 are able to reveal such information without sacrificing her privacy.
I accidentally found it when I was randomly browsing through some of the comments on the Anya Subbotina VK. If you go to the post dated "24 Jan at 8:57 am", there's a user who goes by the name, Grigory Yuriev:
His account is also fake and if you notice his relationship status, it says that he's in love with someone named "Yulia Lotiost", the very same name and profile that I just mentioned in the first part of my post!
What's even more revealing about this is that these fake accounts might very well be connected to Arsen Odzelashvili himself! If you remember from my extremely long post from a while back, Arsen created 2 fake VK accounts (that we're currently aware of): one was the Anya Subbotina page, while the other one was the Yulya Kravtsova page.
Now, if you closely examine the names of "Yulya Kravtsova" and ""Yulia Lotiost", you'll notice something right away.
Their first names are the SAME with only a slight difference in spelling!
@Cygnus
Arsen might also have been the photographer who shot Annett in Flexyteens. According to Norfolk, Annettt hasn't worked with any other photographer with the exception of Sergey Skokov. I doubt it was Sergey or Antonio who shot her in Flexyteens. The style is just way too different from their usual shoots. That only leaves us with Arsen who's also a photographer and is closely associated with Antonio.
"Curious why those lingerie ads were posted to Annett's fake accounts? "
Obviously, it was to promote his business. (What else?) He also posted the same link on his other fake VK account under "Yulya Kravtsova".
I doubt Arsen was the photographer that shot Annett in Flexyteens. She only met him years later - besides, Arsen is not Sironi because he pretended to be Sironi to one of Clemens's models (not Annett). I still believe it was Clemens that did the photos and videos published in Flexyteens, he was the only photographer from St. Petersburg with whom Annett worked at that time that shot nudes - she did some photos with at least two other photographers from there, but it was only commom model stuff. But without questioning Annett about it, we will never know.
I think it's better to make efforts and energy to remove fake accounts from social networks rather than spend it on studying the behavior of strange dudes who feel themselves to be girls and impersonate as girls in social networks. I think that they are not worth the time spent on them
Norfolk,
I'll take your word for it, even though I still remain somewhat skeptical that it was Antonio who shot her in Flexyteens. The style and camerawork in Annett's Flexyteens shoots just look too different from what we usually see from Antonio. For one thing, the videos in Flexyteens were shot at 29 frames per second. All of Antonio's videos during that period (at least to my knowledge) have always been shot at 25 frames. It wasn't until 2016 that he began publishing videos with a 29 fps rate. Also, the way the videos were shot just doesn't have Antonio's signature style at all. The Flexyteens videos look slightly more amateur and the camerawork is often shaky with lots of movement. Contrast that with Antonio's style whose shoots have a more professional look to them and his scenes usually have the camera in a much more stilled and controlled position.
I'm guessing if it wasn't Antonio or Arsen who shot her in Flexteens, then it was some other photographer associated with Antonio that did. Maybe someone should email Flexyteens so we can finally get to the bottom of this.
DryStream,
If we hadn't done some investigating in the first place, we wouldn't have uncovered the nasty truth about Antonio and Arsen!
And as I already mentioned in a previous reply, removing all these fake accounts is only a temporary solution. It's not going to completely stop anyone from creating more fake accounts to take their place. The best we can hope for in removing all these fake accounts is that it will weaken their morale so that they'll be less likely to create any more fake accounts in the future.
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Cygnus,
Now that I think about it, reporting all these videos and fake accounts is a complete waste of time. Even if we succeeded in removing all of them, they could easily just set up new accounts to take their place. Our efforts would just be useless in the end. Antonio and Arsen may not have posted those Vimeo videos of Annett, but this is probably even more troubling since now other people are posting her erotic material all over the internet and there's very little we can do about it!
And regarding Annett's reputation being ruined because of her Erotic modelling: Well, let's look at the bright side. At least, she was smart enough not to do any hardcore porn. A lot of the other models that worked for Antonio have done a lot of hardcore, explicit sex scenes, but not Annett herself. If she had ever done any sex scenes and got caught, her career and reputation would definitely have been severely damaged with no possibility of ever repairing it. Her doing a bunch of nude shoots
is a lot less damaging compared to a lot of the extreme degrading stuff we find in porn these days. Annett's nude shoots may have been explicit to some degree, but at least they were tastefully done for the most part. I don't think this will damage her reputation and career in the long run. Even if it does end up destroying her Ballet career, she could still use her talents to move on to bigger and better things.
And I'm sure a lot of Annett's friends, family, and co-workers would probably understand her situation like we do. Assuming they already know about her nude modelling, they would show some compassion and understand her reasons for going into nude Erotic modelling in the first place. Annett was most likely in a very tough period in her life when she decided to go into erotic modelling. Imagine living in a part of the world where the economy sucks and there's barely any job opportunities. A struggling young Ballet dancer like Annett who had a lot of personal problems to deal with and was desperate for some money probably had no other choice but to go into nude Erotic modelling. It was either that or prostitution.
No sane, rational person would ever blame her for doing what she did. If people were to be in Annett's (ballet) shoes, I would bet almost all of them would have made a similar decision with their lives.
CreamPie,
It certainly is impossible to get everything, and to do it for all time. But I do think that it is a worthwhile effort in the short run, until this storm passes. Attitudes are very conservative in Russia and Ukraine. A nude model is often considered to be a prostitute, or as Genevieve Gandi mentions in her blog, a "bitch". There are people who spend all their time scouring VK and Facebook so that they can expose models' real names, city of residence, employer, etc. Then the harassment starts. It can turn a model's life upside down. Rylsky will tell you that he has lost countless models because of this harassment. I would hate for Annett to have to go through the same.
http://mariannamerkulova.com/blog/welcome
Cygnus,
Well, I already did my part in reporting the videos and fake accounts. I don't expect all of them to be taken down. Unfortunately, there's always going to be people posting her and other model's nude content for as long as the internet exists. I just hope that our efforts in taking them down sends some kind of message to future posters out there who do these kind of things for their own selfish, immoral reasons.
I also have another thing to confess. As you remember from one my previous posts: the extremely long one where I confess to discovering Annett's private accounts and where I expose Antonio and Arsen's dirty schemes. Well, I withheld some other information when I was writing that post. This was mainly because, as you can probably guess, to protect Annett's privacy as much as possible. But since we're already discussing the topic of "model's reputations being ruined for posing nude", I think it would be the right time to divulge this bit of information. Don't worry, I won't reveal too much of what I found. I don't want to attract any more unwanted attention over her private life, but this is happy news and it will ease some of the worries and concerns that many of the posters have over Annett's current situation. Here it goes:
When I discovered Annett's private accounts many months ago, I also stumbled upon some photos of her that were taken AFTER the Antonio/Arsen incident in which she was forced to delete her private photos and make her personal accounts private!
That's right! These photos are very recent with some of them taking place only a few weeks after that traumatic incident. Now I'm not going to claim that I know the exact details of her personal life, but let's just say from the impressions that I got from the photos, she looks quite happy, despite what she just went through. She's hanging out with co-workers and friends, smiling and having a good time. I'm not sure about the status of her Ballet career, however. The photos that I saw took place outside the Ballet world in a more relaxed, casual, and friendly setting (let's just say). It's hard to say whether she got fired from her Ballet job or if she's just taking a break after the incident. Only time will tell. Her overall reputation also didn't seem to be tarnished to any great extent. She's still surrounded by friends, family, acquaintances etc. as evident by the photos and other things. I'm not sure if her friends and family members ever discovered that she did nude modeling, but as I mentioned in my previous post, I'm sure that many of them would understand her reasons, despite what you said about Russia and Ukraine having conservative attitudes over such things.
So there you have it. Annett is doing just fine and there's really nothing to worry about. I'm sure she's still hurt and traumatized by this incident (who wouldn't be), but she's taking things in stride and moving on with her life the best way she can.
Creampie,
I would be delighted to have a happy ending to this! Time will tell.
By the way, did you ever receive a reply from Facebook in your Support inbox after you reported the accounts? Or did they just leave you hanging?
It's annoying that the forms Facebook and Twitter provide to report an account give you no chance to explain the problem. Just check two or three boxes and you're done, but you really haven't conveyed the nature of the problem to them, or given them anything solid to investigate.
CreamPie,
Don't worry about her ballet career, she wasn't fired. And thank you for reporting those accounts on Facebook and VK, I did the same and I hope this time it works.
Norfolk,
That's even more great news! Looks like she's still going to continue what she loves doing. That's a relief to hear.
Cygnus,
I'm no Nostradamus, but I can definitely see a bright future for her. She has that rare combination of beauty and brains that you almost never see in your average girl. Even if she were to leave the Ballet world behind, she could still find a successful and productive career elsewhere. This whole terrible mess with Antonio and Arsen taking advantage of her and almost ruining her reputation and career will just be an insignificant speck of her long, promising life.
And no I still haven't received a response from Facebook and Twitter. I doubt they ever will. They literally have the worst customer service ever! I swear they run those social media sites like a bunch of dictators. They never listen to the people and they always jam these stupid useless updates that add nothing to the quality of the site.
Oh well. At least, we now know Annett is doing alright. That's the only thing that matters at the end of all this.
Norfolk,
That is indeed terrific news!
All,
Even more great news! Annett's primary Facebook page has been removed! Good work everyone!
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011805155619
However these pages remain. Be sure to report them too:
https://www.facebook.com/Annett-A-922752044511122/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/196993137353176/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/244480509352793/
Tip: Facebook gives you the chance to comment on your experience in removing Annett's primary account. Be sure to ask Facebook to remove the remaining three pages in your comments, in addition to reporting them.
@CreamPie and Norfolk
It's so nice to read all of this wonderful news about her! I was so worried about her that I was almost losing sleep over it. Can you believe it? Now we can finally breathe a sign of relief knowing that she's going to be in a much better state than what we previously thought. I actually don't even care if she goes back to modelling anymore to tell you the truth. After what Antonio did to her, I could care less about any upcoming videos or photos! As long as she's safe and happy. That's all that matters to me at this point.
I'm glad you 2 have such amazing inside information. Annett isn't going to be returning to modelling anymore so most of her fans aren't going to know what happened to her after that ordeal with Antonio. It's a good thing you 2 are able to reveal such information without sacrificing her privacy.
@Cygnus
Finally! I thought Facebook was never going to delete it. Let's hope the other social media sites wise up and do the same.
Just found another fake VK account using Annett's photos. This time it's under another name, "Yulia Lotiost":
https://vk.com/lotiost
I accidentally found it when I was randomly browsing through some of the comments on the Anya Subbotina VK. If you go to the post dated "24 Jan at 8:57 am", there's a user who goes by the name, Grigory Yuriev:
https://vk.com/gyuriev
His account is also fake and if you notice his relationship status, it says that he's in love with someone named "Yulia Lotiost", the very same name and profile that I just mentioned in the first part of my post!
What's even more revealing about this is that these fake accounts might very well be connected to Arsen Odzelashvili himself! If you remember from my extremely long post from a while back, Arsen created 2 fake VK accounts (that we're currently aware of): one was the Anya Subbotina page, while the other one was the Yulya Kravtsova page.
Now, if you closely examine the names of "Yulya Kravtsova" and ""Yulia Lotiost", you'll notice something right away.
Their first names are the SAME with only a slight difference in spelling!
Curious why those lingerie ads were posted to Annett's fake accounts? Turns out Arsen is a photographer for the company:
https://vk.com/odzela?w=wall211695566_415
https://vk.com/odzela?w=wall211695566_414
And of course he is also the developer of the school app that was posted to Annett's fake accounts, as noted before by CreamPie, plus an app for the lingerie company too:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.yoursite.metodist
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.biz.monstore
Lastly, as a photographer himself, I wonder if Arsen is one of the many aliases previously discussed (Sharpe, Sironi, etc.):
https://podium.life/advert/526816-Semka-v-Dominikane-v-avguste-2015
https://vk.com/odzela?w=wall211695566_413
It would explain why a MetArt photographer told me that Clemens was a two photographer team.
@Cygnus
Arsen might also have been the photographer who shot Annett in Flexyteens. According to Norfolk, Annettt hasn't worked with any other photographer with the exception of Sergey Skokov. I doubt it was Sergey or Antonio who shot her in Flexyteens. The style is just way too different from their usual shoots. That only leaves us with Arsen who's also a photographer and is closely associated with Antonio.
"Curious why those lingerie ads were posted to Annett's fake accounts? "
Obviously, it was to promote his business. (What else?) He also posted the same link on his other fake VK account under "Yulya Kravtsova".
CreamPie,
I doubt Arsen was the photographer that shot Annett in Flexyteens. She only met him years later - besides, Arsen is not Sironi because he pretended to be Sironi to one of Clemens's models (not Annett). I still believe it was Clemens that did the photos and videos published in Flexyteens, he was the only photographer from St. Petersburg with whom Annett worked at that time that shot nudes - she did some photos with at least two other photographers from there, but it was only commom model stuff. But without questioning Annett about it, we will never know.
Dear All!
I think it's better to make efforts and energy to remove fake accounts from social networks rather than spend it on studying the behavior of strange dudes who feel themselves to be girls and impersonate as girls in social networks. I think that they are not worth the time spent on them
Norfolk,
I'll take your word for it, even though I still remain somewhat skeptical that it was Antonio who shot her in Flexyteens. The style and camerawork in Annett's Flexyteens shoots just look too different from what we usually see from Antonio. For one thing, the videos in Flexyteens were shot at 29 frames per second. All of Antonio's videos during that period (at least to my knowledge) have always been shot at 25 frames. It wasn't until 2016 that he began publishing videos with a 29 fps rate. Also, the way the videos were shot just doesn't have Antonio's signature style at all. The Flexyteens videos look slightly more amateur and the camerawork is often shaky with lots of movement. Contrast that with Antonio's style whose shoots have a more professional look to them and his scenes usually have the camera in a much more stilled and controlled position.
I'm guessing if it wasn't Antonio or Arsen who shot her in Flexteens, then it was some other photographer associated with Antonio that did. Maybe someone should email Flexyteens so we can finally get to the bottom of this.
DryStream,
If we hadn't done some investigating in the first place, we wouldn't have uncovered the nasty truth about Antonio and Arsen!
And as I already mentioned in a previous reply, removing all these fake accounts is only a temporary solution. It's not going to completely stop anyone from creating more fake accounts to take their place. The best we can hope for in removing all these fake accounts is that it will weaken their morale so that they'll be less likely to create any more fake accounts in the future.